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Today's WTF Podcast guest is Tom Papa. At one point during their conversation, Marc Maron takes time to again repeat a false narrative he came up with years ago to try and deflect from and camouflage his predatory behavior. He poses a narrative that attempts to paint himself as a potential victim in danger of being hurt. Here are these two little scenarios, the first from today's podcast, the second from a special he performed eleven years ago:

These two sad little scenarios Maron poses are not at all what he will ever go thru. Because he does not feel anything for these girls that resembles love. He sexually exploits sexually abused girls. They end up more suicidal, and using more alcohol or drugs, after he is done with them.

Even though Mr. Maron knows how so many of his past victims have been harmed by his predatory behavior, he keeps choosing to do it over and over again. He felt nothing for the girl with the gun. If I had not spoken up here on April 26, he would not give a shit what might've happened to her. He was done exploiting her.  That was all he cared about.  Nothing he feels for female victims of child sexual abuse is decent or kind. If he did actually care about sexually abused children, he would never groom teen girls. He would know the last thing they need is to be interacting with predatory old men. There is no concern or compassion or decency in how he views damaged girls young enough to be his granddaughters. 

Last fall, one of Maron's current victims tried to tell one of his past victims that Maron loved her, that she was special to him. The past victim told her how Maron had said similar shit to her, and this escalated the crisis of the current victim. She had trusted a man who feels nothing but lecherous desire to sexually re-exploit young girls. This reality is devastating for these girls to have to realize. It leaves them much more broken, less likely to ever heal. Maron doesn't care. To tell a sad little story about some old man being hurt by some young girl who leaves him, as if it might be in Maron's future, is bullshit.  Love is incapable of existing in the sexual offenses Maron is thinking of as he continues grooming mentally compromised sexual abuse victims.  When he looks at pics sent by underage fans, that isn't love he is feeling. 

An Ally

 This is what a real ally for feminism sounds like:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8rJt9aV/

This is an ally, speaking the truth. This truth exposes exactly what men like Marc Maron are really doing.

All Ages

This is from Marc Maron's latest tiktok post, advertising for his upcoming shows, where his latest material has included Maron talking about his genitalia, excusing his 30 plus years of dating teens, and discussing child sexual abuse, among other adult subjects. During his last tour, and every tour before that, this man played to adult audiences only. Now, all ages are allowed in to see this predator. Children on tiktok are being publicly groomed by this man. WTF is wrong with those allowing this to happen? WTF is wrong with this man? He is purposely choosing to endanger at-risk sexualized little girls. He knows exactly what he is doing, and he knows I am speaking up for these girls like I once was. But he does it anyway, because he knows no one gave a shit about me at 13, and no one gives a shit about the mentally compromised little girls he is grooming today.  He does this because he can.  No one is going to stop him.

 

A question regarding feminism: whose voice matters?

Feminism has experienced waves, each new wave necessary in order to be more inclusive.  In the midst of every new wave, there is one group that keeps drowning. This group needs to finally be helped, not swept under, yet again. 

Old male predators like Marc Maron are the ones guiding what happens to sexualized female children. If older adults were allowed more and more to start getting teens drunk, and the teens were blamed for drinking alcohol given to them by such adults, this would not be tolerated. Such old adults exposing teens to alcohol would never be allowed to speak at recovery groups, or be seen as honored member of groups like MADD.  Only when it comes to sex, are old male predators ever able to be held up as allies of feminism.  This is the newest wave of patriarchy, making sure to keep their power to fuck female children, and keep such children from escaping the re-exploitation cycle that ensures old men like Maron can have a constant supply of young victims.

Marc Maron's voice should be used as an example of the current problem we face in this patriarchy.   Women like Brooke Shields, and Alexandra Wentworth, are examples of the voices that matter in regards to this issue.  Not some 60 yr-old man who fucked a girl with BPD from CSA, with suicidal ideation and a gun.  A girl young enough to be his granddaughter.

If feminism does not ever get this specific issue right, young females will keep self-harming and killing themselves in greater and greater numbers. There is nothing natural or healthy or balanced in letting sexually abused female children be fucked by old men over and over. Any old man doing this is a predator, not an ally.

I hope someday, some wave of feminism will finally look deeper into this issue of afab children who experience sexual abuse, being constantly re-exploited by old men.  Girls are literally going to keep dying in rising numbers, whether because they are covered in burqas, or covered in sexualization. Old men cause both sides of this patriarchal coin.

 Feminism needs to dump predatory old men as "heroes" and "allies."  They are the problem. Sexualized little children sending Mr. Maron pics of Mr. Snake today, do not get any help when Maron is held up as an ally to women.  He will interact with them in DM's.  He will groom them.  He will fuck them at whatever legal age he can.  And then leave them in even worse mental condition.  Their minds are being destroyed, all as Maron is featured by feminism as a "good" man, an "ally."  Please go back thru my last few blog posts here, and listen to this man's past and present words.  This man's words and behavior since 1989 have been publicly predatory.  This man flashed a girl on set last year.  He is not an ally.  He is the face of the new patriarchy.  

My voice should matter.  Not his.  In this one issue, my voice is the voice that matters.  Maron's words and behavior are clear.  My words come straight from a heart destroyed by men like Maron.  As a 57 yr-old female who experienced CSA and child trafficking, as well as being used for child porn, I have 55 years of knowledge and experience in this area. I know what I am writing about.  My voice here is the voice every feminism wave keeps crashing over.  Children like I was keep ending up buried in the ocean floor.  Silenced.

Marc Maron, unapologetic

Marc Maron has been chasing, grooming, and having sex with young girls for over 30 years. (See video link below.) As of this following interview, he has never apologized, or even felt like his damaging behavior is wrong:

---Hadley Freeman

Saturday 16, June 2018

On his podcast, Maron has been excellent at calling comedians out for unacceptable behaviour. He has confronted people about joke-stealing and taken others to task for homophobia. So I wonder if he regrets any of his own past jokes. In 1999, he appeared on David Letterman and said he knew he was getting older when teenage girls stopped looking at him as a sexual being. “Don’t misunderstand: I’m not saying I want to have sex with teenage girls… I’m lying: of course I want to have sex with teenage girls. Come on, doesn’t everyone? That’s why there’s a law.” In 2014, he was interviewed on US TV and asked about his reputation for dating much younger women. “Yeah, resolving daddy issues since 1989. I’m here to help the young ladies,” he replied.

But when a male fan wrote to Maron recently to suggest that maybe he should take that Letterman clip down from his website, he was outraged.“What am I, a personal totalitarian state? I’m going to have to start erasing my history? I don’t think it’s an inappropriate joke. I mean, the idea that men want to have sex with teenage girls – really, are you shocked? It says a lot that somebody – that a man – would reach out and say, ‘It’s not a good look to have that joke up.’ What is happening?” he asks.

Marc Maron: ‘I’m familiar with coke, anger, bullying, selfishness’ | Comedy | The Guardian---

 

Admission

I have received some communication from people who have recently attended Marc Maron's current tour, where he is performing his latest material.   I was hesitant to comment on his current material, without hearing him personally speak about it.   He has mentioned some of his most recent material, in intros and interviews from his WTF Podcast, as well as his own appearances on other podcasts.  A pattern is becoming apparent.   He seems to be doing material that is addressing his 30+ years of predatory behavior.  The way he is doing this, and the words choices he is making, do not appear to be the words of a person who is deciding to take responsibility for harming much younger humans, and trying to stop his predatory behavior.  Instead of apologizing for sexualizing those with BPD from the stage, and saying he was wrong to call those with compromised mental health "lunatics" while blaming them for being re-exploited by him, he appears to be saying he is a sexually abused person who is mentally ill, too.

Men like Marc Maron and my old sda principal are not mentally healthy, and have obviously had fucked up experiences in regards to sex. They see cis girls who have experienced CSA as legitimate targets for sexual re-exploitation.  That is definitely not the behavior of a person with a healthy mind.  No one who sexually preys on younger vulnerable damaged humans is mentally well.  My father saw his own toddler daughter as someone to get off on.  He sent me off with my hooker stepmother to be raped when I was five.  My father is not mentally healthy.  My hooker stepmother was not mentally healthy.  Both experienced CSA. Their mental illnesses and childhood abuses gave them no right to harm me or other children.  Compromised mental health gave no right to my mentally ill sda church-school principal to sexually re-exploit me.  

Sexual predators are mentally ill.  No question about that.  Their mental illnesses and history of sexual abuse does not mean they are free to sexually re-exploit much younger abuse victims.  Predators who have mental illnesses that make them compulsively sexually exploit younger humans need to be kept away from young humans, not marketed to them.  Children need to be protected from the grooming of such predators.  Children need to know such predators are not safe, not be interacting privately with such predators online.

Marc Maron grooms and fucks teen girls who have been sexually abused, who have been diagnosed with mental illness, who are suicidal and regularly harm themselves, and are addicted to drugs and alcohol.  Of course Mr. Maron is mentally ill.  Healthy 60 yr-olds do not groom and fuck mentally compromised teen girls.  He does need help to figure out why he is obsessed with teen girls, and indecently exposes his genitalia.   His behavior needs to be addressed, and he needs to be kept away from children.  Adults with mental illnesses that leave them unable to control their impulses to flash others or stop harming young CSA survivors diagnosed with BPD, are in need of intervention to stop their predatory behavior. 

Yes, Marc Maron is a mentally ill predator. Apparently he is admitting this in his latest material.  His admission does not mean he deserves a continuing pass to harm much younger mentally compromised girls.  His uncontrollable sexual compulsions need to be stopped, not marketed to children. 

More of Maron's recent words

Maron was on a number of podcasts during 2023, and this is just a small example of things he said regarding his behavior.  These clips are from Bialik Breakdown Podcast, Dopey Podcast, Not Cool Podcast, Anniewood Podcast, The Blocks Podcast, and a recent Maron IG Live.

There are some moments worth noting, although each clip is informative on its own:  

Maron mentions himself and his mother being too young to understand themselves at the same ages of many of the girls he draws in and leaves much worse off. 

On the Dopey Podcast, Maron is asked if he sponsors anyone.  He says "No," and lists reasons that somehow have never stopped him from sponsoring mentally compromised girls.  After listening to the Sept. 14th episode of WTF, hearing how Maron spun what actually took place a few years ago, making it seem like he was not trying to sponsor comedian Hannah Einbinder, a girl he flirted with from the stage when he was 50 and she was 19.  Apparently, he just had a private AA meeting with her.  I guess that is how he will be framing what he does to vulnerable young females in need of recovery.

Clips

I'm not sure how many of Maron's own words it will take, for adults to protect kids today from being sexually exploited by this man tomorrow, a man who is turning 60 this month, but this video doesn't begin to scratch the surface of grooming and manipulative BS this man has been crapping out for 3 decades.  There will be more videos in the future.

Edited to respond to the person who tried to detract from Maron's words by mentioning the other comedian in 2 of these clips, and asking why I am not stocking (Yes, that was the spelling) that comedian.   I've had to see predators all of the time, my whole life.  When I posted that Maron was my last straw, I meant it.  

I  can only do a very limited amount of anything to combat this outrageously ignored problem.  The quality (lack thereof) of this video speaks for my deficiency with all things tech.  I have to be somewhere in half an hour.  I can only do what I have time/ability to do.  It would sure be nice if we all could come together and fight this bs predatory behavior that destroys and steals actual lives.  Children being harmed this second, need this to happen. 

If for any reason this link ceases to work, this video is scheduled to appear on other platforms in the future.

Maron's words, 9/10/2023

This was an answer Maron gave on his Sunday afternoon Instagram Live, 9/10/2023, as he did a brief Q and A with us viewers. I suppose his answer here will not mean much, to those unaffected by child sexual abuse and child sex trafficking. Trouble is, this isn't some bullshit right-wing pizzagate nonsense he is talking about. 

To me, to those who have experienced the very real hell of CSA and child sex trafficking, and to all those victims of convicted child sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell, victims who will never have a chance to face Jeffrey Epstein, their other child sex offender, in court, along with those other offenders on Epstein's list, Maron's words this afternoon will hurt to hear. The living nightmares of sexually trafficked children mean nothing to Marc Maron.  

It's pretty clear here why my words truly never meant a thing to Mr. Maron this past year. He does not see sexually abused and trafficked children as anything that matters. No wonder he can so easily re-exploit mentally compromised girls who have experienced CSA. The pain of children being sexually abused means nothing to this man.

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Numbers

I have heard something so often, in my life, but I never stopped and realized how irrational yet widespread this particular belief pattern really is, at its core.  I once thought it was specific to my experience with the SDA church reaction to the predatory principal who sexually re-exploited myself and other damaged girls, but since I started posting about Marc Maron's predatory behavior, I finally understand this is how people everywhere excuse the predatory behavior of anyone they need to keep seeing as safe.  

When I was 17, I had to discover the school principal I had trusted, who had groomed and sexually re-exploited me since I was 13, had been doing the same thing to other girls for many years.  When one of those girls tried to kill herself, I spoke up to the highest church authority in my conference.  He literally got off on my words, then passed the buck.  Soon after, I was asked to have my membership removed from the SDA books.  

In 2001, my sister gave me and my kids a used personal computer, and I ended up on the web, reconnecting with school friends from the many places I lived during my youth.  It turned out some of those friends were still connected to my old nonce principal.  This was disturbing, in ways I couldn't understand fully back then.  Once in awhile, I would be told why these past friends of mine were fine with this sexual predator seeing pictures of, and even interacting with, my old friends' children, online and in real life.  If that man had once tried to interact with my three children, I would most likely still be in prison for how I would have reacted.  For anyone else to allow a sexual predator access to their own offspring made no sense to me at all.  My mind can't figure out how any parent could make such a child-endangering decision.   Most of these friends of mine had heard about what this principal had done to me and other classmates.  For years, I assumed their ignorant endangering of their own children was a problem endemic to the Adventist church.  I know better, now.  This is a problem that is the basis for all sexual predators who are allowed to continue harming vulnerable prey.  My acquaintances from childhood were basing their trust of my past abuser on a numbers game.  Since that SDA principal had not groomed and fucked them while they were children under his care and influence, they decided he had not fucked any kids at all.  

There is no logic behind such a warped belief system.  If this was the standard all criminals were held to, no one would be incarcerated.  No bank robber has ever robbed every single bank that exists.  No one serving time for GTA has stolen every single vehicle that has come off the assembly line.  Jeffrey Dahmer did not murder, then fuck and dismember and cook and eat, every young male on the planet.  He didn't come close to committing his crimes against every young male on his block.  He was convicted of such crimes against 17 young victims.  That is an infinitesimal percentage of the young males Dahmer came into contact with in his daily life.  Somehow, I doubt most humans would think Dahmer should have remained free, simply because he did not kill and necrophilize and cannibalize every young male he ever met.  That's not how crime works.  If a murderer had to murder every human alive to be convicted of murder, there would be no one left to investigate, prosecute, adjudicate, convict, and incarcerate the killer.

My school principal had way more children under his care graduate and go on to college, than end up like myself and his other victims.  That is how sexual abuse works.  That does not negate that principal's predatory behavior, or the damage his behavior created in already damaged girls.  Marc Maron has not sponsored and sexually re-exploited every damaged girl in AA.  That does not negate the damage he has done to many vulnerable girls with mental illness created by childhood sexual abuse.  Every person Maron has not sexually re-exploited has every reason to be thankful they are not worse off now because of his behavior.  But their experience has no bearing on those who have been, or are being, or are going to be, victimized by Mr. Maron.  Holding up those examples of people Maron did not further damage as proof he is a safe man, is not logical.  His predatory behavior has been on public display for over 3 decades.  Just because he hasn't destroyed every girl alive, doesn't mean it is okay for him to leave a suicidal girl with a gun in much worse condition by sexually re-exploiting her and abandoning her, when he is done using her.  She is the one he targeted, groomed, and sexually re-exploited.  She is the broken girl, young enough to be his granddaughter, who he endangered with his selfish sexual predation.  She is the one who should not be ignored and dismissed.  To view her as an unimportant piece of flotsam, should be unconscionable.   Instead, it is the norm.